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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:05 pm

You see what I'm getting at? I think maybe the full complete vizard release will actually be a hollow form, much like the arrancars maybe.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:33 pm

Yeah I think full release for Vizards is pretty much a Hollow. However, once it gets to that point I also bet its hard, if not impossible to control without the hollow taking over.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:35 pm

yeah you're right. But you see these people (shinji and co) has LOTS of years to practice this before the time we have right now. So there's a good chance that they tried it, and even probably controlled it. Most likely are the captains like Shinji and Kensei.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:39 pm

Yes. All that time that they had to master it would make a big difference from anything that Ichigo has done, since he did everything the super fast way each time.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:48 pm

..which is so cheap that the writers made it like that. the protagonist always does the impossible Sad

I'm afraid that they might make him as powerful, if not more, than the vizards even at their full release.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:09 am

They probably will but only if it's a fight for something that he must win to protect people or something. Kind of like the Kenpachi fight back in the day. They did say Ichigo has a crazy amount of spiritual power. Add that together with the hollowfied version and a bankai and you have crazy power.

I really hope Aizen isn't ridiculously strong compared to everyone like I think he'll be.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:22 am

Heh, if Aizen is strong, then Ichigo must learn some new uber powerful form to fight him.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:24 am

Aizen will own, and then they have to think of something awesome to beat him. I will enjoy seeing this happen

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:26 am

wait, does aizen also have vizard capabilities?

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:58 am

He might. It was Aizen after all who experimented with hollowification.

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Heh, if Aizen is strong, then Ichigo must learn some new uber powerful form to fight him.
I'm pretty physicked for Ichigo to learn some new technique/form. He's been running on bankai and vizard transformation for a while. and his big slash thing, tsengen zangetsu or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:08 pm

tensa zangetsu is the bankai name Very Happy
getsuga tenshou is the big slash thing

Eh.. Ichigo already had an upgrade recently. A cheap one too, he's now able to have vizard for longer times.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:11 pm

Yea, found it odd how he trained forever and only increased it to like 10 seconds if that then all of a sudden bam. A whole battle with GrimmJow.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:25 pm

Yeah that was a little ridiculous. One other thing I found odd much earlier on in the series was when they started flying. They hadn't really been flying before, then suddenly they all just took off into the air, even Ichigo. I was like "when did he learn to fly?"
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:36 pm

Lol, I know what your talking about. You would think some serious training would be called for to do that but I guess not.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:42 pm

It's the hollow in him being powered by being in Hueco Mundo!

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:52 pm

hm you got a point there. Maybe because Hueco is full of soul particles that it greatly boosts his vizard capabilities.. but then again he's not a quincy.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:51 pm

He could fly in the real world couldn't he?
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:55 pm

Yeah he could fly before he got to Hueco Mundo. I think he flys in one of the OVAs maybe sealed sword. And he flew in his fight with Grimmjow. It's not even real flying, it's like standing on air, so I assume the explanation would be similar to Shinobi being able to focus chakra in their feet to walk on water or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:13 pm

Yea but with Shinobi they don't fly, at least not yet in Naruto. Give it some time and it could be possible though.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:26 pm

It think it has to do with them being like Saiyans. They can put their reiatsu under them to make them float. They should also be able to use it to propel them forward

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:40 pm

That's all good and well, but I still don't know when or how Ichigo learned to do all this fancy stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:58 pm

It's a mystery like when DBZ started to fly, we never actually saw training.
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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:34 pm

But later in it, they showed them telling Videl how to do it.

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:57 pm

how about talking how different a full vizard release is from a full espada release?

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PostSubject: Re: Vizards   Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:59 pm

In full espada release they turn more into hollow beasts while in vizard release they just get a mask. I think that's considered full vizard release.
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